1 Sam 12:14 – If ye will fear the LORD, and serve him, and obey his voice, and not rebel against the commandment of the LORD, then shall both ye and also the king that reigneth over you continue following the LORD your God: But if ye will not obey the voice of the LORD, but rebel against the commandment of the LORD, then shall the hand of the LORD be against you, as it was against your fathers.  Is it not wheat harvest to day?  I will call unto the LORD, and he shall send thunder and rain; that ye may perceive and see that your wickedness is great, which ye have done in the sight of the LORD, in asking you a king.  So Samuel called unto the LORD; and the LORD sent thunder and rain that day: and all the people greatly feared the LORD and Samuel.

Purpose – The people placed Moses (prophet), Samuel (priest), and a king (Saul) to rule over them.  God answers them with thunder and a voice that calls for ultimate reconciliation and restoration of God’s people back to Himself – FACE TO FACE.

The people of God had made a prophet to mediate between them and God as they stood off the mountain, and then a priest to stand in the gap between their enemies, and now a king to rule over them.  The early church did not have a dividing line of clergy and laity.  This latter church of ours has alienated herself just as the Israelites had done.  Starting with the Catholic Church into present day prophetic movements, we still see this same alienation.  This alienation did not surprise God; He prophesied it in the seven thunders.  This alienation did not start with God’s people in the church of the Middle Ages, it was an alienation seen in God’s people in the days of Moses, Samuel and Saul.

The 7th thunder is the final thunder, the perfect thunder.  It must accomplish completely what God had set out to do since the 1st thunder.  It started in alienation and it must end in total reconciliation.  It must end in a unity, a gathering together of all God’s people with God Himself!  It cannot end with the people at the base of the mountain, it cannot end with God’s people standing afar off, and it cannot end with God’s people setting up prophets to hear and meet God for them.

We got men going to heaven for us, and we say, “We need their prophecies,” and “we need their newest revelations.”  Now listen up for God’s thunderous voice – NO MORE!!!  God will no longer allow you to have a pastor / Moses or the prophetic seer of your choice… to stand IN-BETWEEN.  So what does God do about it?  He sends thunder to deal with the final thing that stands before Him and man – OTHER MEN.  There is a perfect gift of ministry through men of God, but it is the people’s RESPONSE to ministry gifts that God is after not the ministers themselves.  I am a minister therefore do not misunderstand and think I am talking about the destruction of ministry.  I am talking about the destruction of the vegetation that we are wearing.  It is vegetation that places a minister between God and us.  This last vegetation rests in the finish work and experiences of the minister instead of resting in our own face-to-face relationship with God.  All ministers that hear the 7th thunderous voice of God will simply move out of the way and go up WITH THE PEOPLE.

I have spoken before about the false doctrine of shepherdship or shepherding in this book.  I have a hatred for this leaven more than other false doctrines that I encounter.  I watched nice people get destroyed because of it and it almost destroyed me years ago, but that is not why I hate this sin so much.  After seeing the 7th thunder, I realized that it is a leaven that utterly alienates man from God by placing a “minister” in between you and Jesus.  Unfortunately, they are not quite the caliber of Moses, but even if they were, if we will listen to God’s thunderous voice, it says NO MORE.

No more shall I have a man between Me and My people.  No more shall man rule My people and become a crutch for My people.  The time for kings is over, the time for priests is over, and the times for prophets are over for I have called my entire people to be My prophet, priests, and king.  I have called My people to reign with Me face-to-face in an intimacy that can be found only on My bosom.  This is no place for those that are timid, no place for those that are weak, it a place for My Gideons who will fight to get to a place of rest with Me that cannot be counterfeited and cannot be mastered.  Those who try to stand in-between shall be removed, they are opposed to the 7th thunder of My awesome voice saith the Lord.

So Samuel says that the 7th thunder will show us the great wickedness that we have done in the sight of God in asking for a king.  When the thunder CAME the people SAW.  They perceived how great that wickedness was, they saw their wickedness in asking for a human mediator and repented.  Their wicked King Saul would be replaced by King David who represented the only King we would ever serve, the King from Heaven.  After the 7th thunder sounds, it results in the following verse:

1 Sam 12:20-22 – … the Lord has been pleased to make you a people for Himself!

After the 7th thunder ends, God reveals to us WHY.  All of these thunders happen finally to bring us to a place where we habitually live in Him, for Him and WE BECOME HIS!  It pleased Him to sound the thunders to make you a people for Him.  God takes pleasure with a people reconciled to Him and no longer alienated in any way.  God takes pleasure in having redeemed you from the curse of the law and of the ground – for Himself.  You are for Him, not for anyone standing in-between.  Your favorite minister cannot be your voice of God any longer; it must be God Himself.  Your pastor cannot be your king, your discerner, or your sole adviser.  God must be your Husband now.  The gift of men can be partaken from, whether it is my gift to you or your pastor’s – but it ends there.  I am bringing you to the base of the mountain but it is up to you to proceed upwards.  I cannot go for you and you cannot go for me.  I plead with you to go and do not look back, He is up there waiting for you and all He desires is that you come boldly to His throne of grace and obtain the mercy to Love Him Face-to-Face without shame and nakedness ever again.  Never standing aloof, and never shrinking back.  Listening to every precious word, He is speaking to you, and believing every one of them.  We must stand at the top of the mountain; we must abide in Him, in agreement.  Not contrary to what He teaches, not contrary to the path He destines for us.  There is embrace at the top and there is humble obedience as well.  Self-preservation, vegetation, and sin are remembered as dead things, long buried.  Our life, our entire walk is now hid in Him.  As our heart melts for Him, we are willing to have our very bodies melted for His testimony.  Thus is the life of one found at God’s mountaintop.

The 7th thunder of Revelation sounds for what becomes the completion of the entire plan of redemption.  It pleased God to make you a people unto Himself.  Not a people that do what she wants, say what she wants, and chooses the brand of Christianity she wants.  You have become a people He takes pleasure in – without spot, wrinkle, or blemish.

Rev 19:6-9 – And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Halleluia (Praise ye God): for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth. Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb.  And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

My brethren, this is the final voice of God’s thunder.  We must observe the finality, the completeness, and the perfection of what God is saying from His thunder.  We are granted, we are called, and we are blessed to have this marriage invitation.  If you have yet to choose Jesus then we must not wait any longer.  We have made the initial commitment but now let us make our FINAL COMMITMENT!  Jesus wants you reserved for Him and your past has no bearing on your future.  Whatever defilement, whatever tragedy and whatever pains you have – becomes swallowed up if we will commit to the MOST EXCELLENT WAY of our Lord Jesus.  If we are attached to anything unlike Jesus – commit to cast it off now.  If we have accepted doctrine that Jesus does not agree with then purge it out of your bread.  If we have failed to serve Jesus with our whole being and have not given Him total authority over our lives then let us repent and go up to the mountain of our Lord.  Without shame, without nakedness we are clothed with Jesus Who is sufficient in the eyes of our God.  Our lives are to be a sweet fragrance to His nose; our lives are to be good fruit, eaten of by our brethren, and our lives stand as judgment against those that refuse the covenant of God.  Cry out to God for mercy and cry out to God for the grace to enter in by faith to the rest of God where we cease from works and are instead clothed in His glory.  Do not let your race become disqualified by fainting, by standing aloof, or by accepting teachings that do not resemble Jesus and His glorious plan of total reconciliation.  It is how you finish the race that counts.  Do not finish like King Solomon that built the house and then served other gods; or like King Hezekiah, that God selected for death after a race of honor, and when he got an extension with life through healing – turned away from God and finished in rebellion.  We must proceed to the high calling of God, the more excellent way – the finishing line.  It is how we finish that counts.  We must finish as fathers, we must finish as mothers, we must finish as the Moses that brings the people to the top of the mountain – to be reconciled – spirit, soul, and then at the culmination – THE BODY.
There are so many more details with these scriptures that build on the glory of God’s plan.  God has so many ways, so many pictures to show us these simple truths.  It is never a new revelation but a revelation seen in the Old Testament, but with a clearer vision until that time of the great Marriage Supper Feast of the Lamb – the Gathering Together of God’s people unto Himself.  God’s love story starts in Genesis 1:1 and ends in Revelation 22:21.  This is the day that we receive glorified bodies that are flesh of His flesh and bone of His bone.  And forevermore, we shall be with the Lord and we shall be known by His Name.  We shall be married to our Lord.  We are the City of God, we are the dwelling place of God –His temple, we are His bride and wife, and we are His people Whom He takes pleasure in.  Come Lord Jesus, we receive Your free gift, drinking from Your spring.  Come Lord Jesus, we have made ourselves ready for You.  Come Lord Jesus, we have become Your habitation, a temple not made with the hands of man, but a temple made solely by the hands of Your Spirit; for God’s temple is not made by might (human), nor by power (man’s) , but by My Spirit saith the Lord.  Amen.

Rev 21:2-17 – I saw the holy City (God’s people), the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.  And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them.  THEY WILL BE HIS PEOPLE, AND GOD HIMSELF WILL BE WITH THEM AND BE THEIR GOD.  He will wipe every tear from their eyes.  There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” He said to me: “It is done.  I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End.  To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life.  He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son.  “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches.  I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.” The Spirit and the bride say, “Come!”And let him who hears say, “Come!” Whoever is thirsty, let him come; and whoever wishes, let him take the free gift of the water of life.  (NIV)

3 John 13-14 – I have so much to tell you, but I do not want to do it with pen and ink.  I hope to see you soon, and then we will talk personally.  TEV

John Robert Lucas

Excerpt from Temple Builders: Final Push to the Summit

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  1. Donnie Hall says:

    John Robert Lucas,

    What do you think and how does it relate when you hear, The Seven Thunders sealed up and these 7 Thunders being unsealed in the end time. Relate to the Sons of Thunder and to the seven feast. Also relate them to the mountain of transfiguration. There were seven people, so to say on that mountain.
    1st
    you had Jesus, then Peter, John, James, then Moses, Elijah, and The Voice of God speaking.
    That makes seven on the mountain.
    How do you think these relate to the seven feast?
    Also what do you hear in this?

    Donnie Hall,
    Gadsden,AL
    256-640-2492 if you wish to call!

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