Exod 20:18 – 5th Thunder – And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off.

Purpose – God’s people respond to His glory by distancing themselves and putting Moses (a clergy) between them and God.

The 4th thunder was glorious, out of it came the law that became hid in Christ.  However, tragedy strikes because the people refused God’s plan of removing the alienation, and restoring relationship with God and man.  BECAUSE OF NAKEDNESS, they stand afar off.  They see God’s glory and you would think that they would get as close as allowed; instead they stood afar off.

Exod 20:19-21 – And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die. And Moses said unto the people, Fear not: for God is come to prove you, and that his fear may be before your faces, that ye sin not. And the people stood afar off, and Moses drew near unto the thick darkness where God was.

The people of God fulfill this prophetic event everyday.  “Let the Pastor speak to us, let the Pastor go to the mountain, but I will stay back.”  “I do not understand the scriptures so I must buy the newest book at the Christian bookstore.”  Moses on the other hand drew near to God.  The thunderous voice of God is calling us right now into the thick darkness where He is.  Notice the scripture says that God is in the thick darkness.  Selah.  Other Christians will not go there.  Other Christians have their pastors and prophets go there and when most of them have their pastors and prophets go there – the result is no one goes.  We are called to be this “Moses people” and we are called down from that same mountain to woo others into coming.  We are ministers of reconciliation that will reconcile God’s people back to Himself at the top of the mountain.  God’s desire is not just the initial salvation experience, God’s entire design was for man to walk with Him in the Earth and yet not a part of the cursed ground.

The world system grows out of the ground that is cursed and is destined for judgment, we are traveling on that ground but we are not rooted in it; we do not Christianize world governments & their people’s lifestyles – they are cursed.  Instead, we reconcile individuals to God Who died for the ungodly.

When you have a face-to-face relationship with the Master and you go to the mountain to hear His thunderous voice for yourself – it brings glory to your face.  As with Moses whose face shone with Glory, that he put a veil on it, God says get that face of glory but now it is time to take the veil off.  We must impart life to others and bring them to the top of the mountain “with God” in this hour.

Who is it that will finally go?  It is the ones that will hear this thunder being proclaimed and will draw near to God in response.  One may be the Bible scholar of the millennium and never reach God’s face.  One may have seen thousands healed, raised from the dead and demons cast out – and be the one who stood aloof from God’s holy presence.  One may be the most admired and gifted minister and yet failed to go to the top with God and failed to go back and bring others to the top to meet God.  God is looking for ANY WHO WILL, to go to the top, then leave and bring back others to meet God.  Are you that one?  Will you go?  Will you go back down after going?  If you do not go back down – they will all stand aloof.  The 5th thunder of the Old Testament causes a division in God’s camp.  God will only have two people in the last day; one that goes to the top to meet Him, and one who stands aloof.

The 5th thunder of Revelation is God’s GREAT DIVIDING as well!  The sequence of events following this thunderous voice, speaks a truth that is seen throughout scripture.  It is a truth of just two people separated into categories, the wheat and the tares.  Those Christians riding the fence will fall on one side or the other.

Rev 14:2-19 – And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins.  These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth.  These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

The sound of thunder gives way to the sound of harps and the voices of harpers.  They are singing the Psalms of God and maybe Psalm 33, which is quite an appropriate song for the occasion.  The harpers are the 144,000 and they are singing a new song that cannot be learned unless you are a member.  God is not in the business of forming exclusive clubs like some Bible teachers malign Him as doing.  God always says whosoever wills!  The 144,000 are NEVER a number LIMITED to a physical number.  God speaks with spiritual numbers and unless we see that truth, Revelation will always be a mystery to us no matter how much we study it.  Some will respond by saying, “are you not over-spiritualizing the scriptures and events in Revelation?”  These scriptures are very spiritual and they are hidden FOR those that have eyes to see and ears to hear, they are hidden FOR YOU.  These scriptures do have fulfillment in both spirit and physical.  There will physically be a people that the 144,000 represent.  I also perceive that there will be physical calamities as are depicted in Revelation but each one has a spiritual truth attached to it.  Each physical event communicates God’s plan to man.

The 144,000 are ones that “were not defiled with a woman.”  This is very much like the command of Moses read earlier, “do not go near a woman.”  Moses spoke this as a word of sanctification to the people of God.  Is the Holy Spirit saying this is simply a command to sanctify us thoroughly or is the Holy Spirit saying that this is limited to men who choose to never have sexual relations with a woman?  You must hear what the Holy Spirit is teaching to know the answer.

Verse 5 blatantly reveals something very important that many Bible teachers teach against.  There are many Bible teachers that believe that it is heresy to teach that the people of God can walk in such a way where their maturity is without sin.  In verse 5 we see a people that walked in this life with no guile, no lies, and no falsehoods.  They are a people that are without blemish, without spot – a perfect people.  Though God’s standard of measure does not always mean “UTTERLY,” it does have a strong comparison sense that they shall walk in righteousness where no one can find blame.  Other church members, or the world system, or the devil cannot find blame in them.  God himself calls them BLAMELESS.  Not on their own merits but we are talking of a fruitful walk that comes from abiding in Jesus to such a capacity that the fruit of sin is absent and the fruit of righteousness is the ONLY fruit available from their tree.  These Bible teachers claim scripture proficiency and yet in reality they miss some of the simplest teachings found in scripture.  They stand aloof from God’s truth.  They lack the intimacy that the Holy Spirit brings to truth.

Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

Now comes the separation.  The hour of judgment has come.  Immediately revealed is Babylon, a city that represents a religious people that does not know God.  The 5th thunder of the Old Testament separates the people by giving a revelation of God’s glory which results in a people that “stood aloof” from God.  It is a people that choose to stay aloof.  These “standing aloof” people become “BABYLON!”  Now in Revelations’ 5th thunder they are judged because not only did they stand aloof but they also intermingled with the nations of the world.  They are the first to get utter judgment before the world system.

And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up forever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

In Revelation 7:3, we see the 144,000 having the SEAL OF GOD in their foreheads.  Is this a physical mark?  Most would agree it is not a physical mark but it is a spiritual mark.  If we follow this same pattern in relationship to the “mark of the beast” then we should conclude that the Holy Spirit is talking about a spiritual mark.  Does that mean there will be no physical marks handed out?  That would be trying to guess something that the Holy Spirit is not teaching.  The Holy Spirit is teaching us to FOCUS on the spiritual mark.  Though the physical mark could become a physical reality, our focus is in the spiritual fulfillments.  You can be out looking for the physical mark and have avoided it and the whole time you have received the spiritual mark of the beast.

Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.
And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

Israel’s last feast is the feast of tabernacles, a feast of reaping, and then a gathering together what has been reaped.  There is two gathering: of the righteous fruit and the wheat – and of the wicked tares.  This reaping is a great divide just as the Kidron (meaning dusk) valley in Jerusalem was a divide that represented light separating from darkness.  In this chapter, the sickle is swung twice.  The second swing (Rev. 14:17-20) fills the winepress or wine vat with the fruit from the vine of the Earth – BLOOD.  A winepress squashes, crushes those grapes with feet and this judgment on our enemies uses the feet of God to crush our enemies.  The place this event happens is outside the city meaning Jerusalem.  I see the wine vat as Kidron valley, remembering that it is the spiritual application that we are hearing from God concerning these events.

John Robert Lucas

Excerpt from Temple Builders: Final Push to the Summit

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