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The Seven Thunders: 7 Thunders a prophetic picture

Chapter 26
The 7 Thunders

Rev 10:3-4

3      and he gave a loud shout like the roar of a lion. When he shouted, the voices of the seven thunders spoke.

4      And when the seven thunders spoke, I was about to write; but I heard a voice from heaven say, "Seal up what the seven thunders have said and do not write it down." (NIV)

One day as I was studying types and shadows concerning the two witnesses of Revelation, I came upon this scripture concerning the 7 thunders. After reading it I immediately asked, “what are the 7 thunders and what did they say?” “Why were they sealed up?” God answered me this:

Amos 3:6-8

6      Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?

7      Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

8      The lion hath roared, who will not fear? the Lord GOD hath spoken, who can but prophesy?

God spoke clearly to me and said, “I am unsealing the 7 thunders, and this is what they said. First, language is very important here. God has a certain language when He talks… concerning these mysteries. It is simple and yet it takes a spiritual alarm going off on the inside of us to perceive what God is saying. There is nothing mystical and there is nothing complicated about the 7 thunders and yet it is something that has been sealed since John heard it on the Isle of Patmos.

The seven thunders are the seven thunders heard by men in the Old Testament and relate to seven thunders witnessed in Revelation. These thunders have been primarily covered up because of the obscure language that is seen in the translations. One must ask the Lord, why do we have all these imperfect translations when Your word is so perfect. It is because God has hidden the mysteries of God in language and has progressively been unfolding the truth that is hidden when men crave God enough to dig for it. It is not about academics, it is about revelation knowledge that uses the tools of researching aids. Passover week 1999 God spoke concerning these 7 thunders and my research led me quickly to the Hebrew. First we must take note that the number 7 is God’s number of perfection.

6963 qowl (kole);

or qol (kole); from an unused root meaning to call aloud; a voice or sound:

1) a voice, a sound, a noise, thunder

Translated Thunder or Voice

Every time this Hebrew word “qowl” is used, it is used for physical thunder that is heard in a natural sense. For example you would hear “qowl”(thunder) and lightning. Other times when this Hebrew word is used it is translated voice. How is it that one word can be used with two different meaning? This is where it gets interesting. It is not two different meanings to God. When you see this word it means GOD’S THUNDEROUS VOICE! This Hebrew word is used by God to convey physical thunder in the natural and it is used to convey God’s thunderous voice in the spiritual. Now to teach this there must be a pattern to establish the doctrine. So God brings us to the New Testament first.

John 12:28-30

28     Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.

29     The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him.

30     Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes.

This is the only time that thunder is heard in the New Testament aside from Revelation. When God spoke, some heard thunder instead. This is important to set a precedent of how God combines His voice with thunder. I call this His thunderous voice. When God speaks then man will perceive it as thunder.

In the book of Revelation we can hear thunder 7 times. The number “7” is God’s number for perfection, culmination and completion. In all 7 times that we hear thunder in Revelation, we see that it is accompanied by the voice of God. Nothing else can be seen accompanying thunder in Revelation every time except God’s voice, not even lightning. The Old Testament thunders 7 times and each time represents a part of the plan of redemption. If we are looking for some mystical key to unlock future events - that is not what God is saying here. God is unfolding a revelation of His plan of a built temple and it is the 7th thunder that signals the completion of it.

As George Warnock writes in his book “The Journey Of The Bride” - God brings us to this “one thing”, that with David we might say,

Ps 27:4

One thing have I desired of the LORD, that will I seek after; that I may dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life, to behold the beauty of the LORD, and to inquire in his temple.

These are not really three separate things, but ONE thing in three dimensions: to dwell in God’s House…for it is there that we would see His beauty, and it is there that we would be able to inquire of Him concerning His ways. In vain do we talk about the House of God, the Temple of God, if the beauty of His presence is not there. And if He is truly there our inquiry will center entirely on Him, and His ways, and the desire of His heart for His people.” George Warnock wrote a great truth here. We must inquire these things that we discuss concerning “the 7 thunders” with an inquiry at His feet instead of an inquiry to obtain more knowledge. An inquiry at His feet eats of the tree of life to obtain its knowledge.

We must check our hearts when we inquire of the Lord to unseal these mysteries concerning the Book of Revelation. Are we looking for a climatic event to take place or are we longingly waiting for Him? Are we trying to figure these things out with our head or are we listening to Jesus’ voice as He explains these treasures to us? As we proceed onward you will observe that the purpose of unveiling truth is RESTORATION OF RELATIONSHIP! These are the 7 thunders of God:

THUNDER OF ALIENATION –           THUNDER 1

Gen 3:8 – 1st thunder

And they heard the voice (qowl-THUNDER) of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool (wind or spirit) of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.

Purpose – shows man’s response to God when alienated

In the interpretation of scripture there is a law called the “the principle of first mentions”. When something is mentioned for the first time there is a precedent being set. It can be a seed truth that will become a principle that grows. The thunder in this scripture becomes a foundation that will be built upon. It is quite important because God will weave a thread of truth from this thunder throughout the entire Bible.

As we know, Adam and Eve ate the wrong fruit and the immediate result was that their eyes saw their own nakedness. They attempted to cover their loins with figs leafs. Previously, Gen 2:25,3:7 said – “And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.” (Then they sin), verse 7- “And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.” Picture this, when God comes to Adam and Eve they are not naked, they had an apron. When they meet God for the first time in this nakedness state of alienation, we see that naturally they had a man-made cloth covering them. Instead of seeing God, they hear His thunderous voice! The scripture says that God’s voice is walking, not His feet, His voice. The language is important in this entire story so take note. The location was the garden and it was the cool of the day. This word Hebrew word that is translated “cool” is never defined as cool temperature. This word is ALWAYS defined and used as wind or spirit.

Let’s put it all together. As God’s thunderous voice is walking in the Spirit of the day, man who has tried to clothe himself hides because of nakedness. They have tried to clothe themselves with the VEGETATION from the ground and now in trying to hide their naked bodies though covered with fig leaves they now hide using the vegetation of the trees in the garden. The idea of “vegetation” is important in this passage because in Revelation we hear thunder and then we see hail and fire destroy 1/3 of the Earth’s vegetation. God uses these related pictures to interpret what He is saying in Revelation.

What we see in the garden is man’s response to alienation to God. Adam knows he is naked when he hears the thunderous voice of God, even though he has dressed himself in vegetation, fig leaves. Let this statement resound in your human spirit, it is a truth that has much below its surface. The Book of Psalms says “SELAH” which means stop and meditate on that. WHEN ALIENATED MAN HEARS GOD’S THUNDEROUS VOICE HE SEES HIS STATE OF NAKEDNESS AND ATTEMPTS TO HIDE HIMSELF WITH MORE VEGETATION.

      What was God’s response to man’s dilemma?

Gen 3:17-21

cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.

God curses the ground, which is where all future vegetation shall come from. It is God’s way of saying that redemption for this alienation shall never come from the ground, the Earth. Our chapter called the “Test of Responses” bears this out. It does not come from the natural man, the soulish man, and the carnal man. Redemption will only come from heaven therefore look up, that is where your redemption shall come. Look to verse 21, this is God’s response to man’s condition- redemption. God takes the vegetation that man has taken from the cursed ground (fig leaves) to cover a nakedness that is uncover-able and God replaces it with ANIMAL SKINS. God slays as a sacrifice, the first animal for the purpose of covering the nakedness of man. This “coat of skin” pointed to One that would come that would become a coat to all who would wear Him – Jesus is that coat.

From now on that which comes from the ground is cursed with no redemptive qualities. The tree of the knowledge of good and evil always comes from the cursed ground, and so does wood, hay and stubble – to represent what fails to clothe man’s nakedness. As we see with Job’s three friends, they had no answer but condemned Job. Teachings that build a house with wood, hay and stubble have no answer for man’s nakedness. They fail to clothe and ultimately condemn whether they intend to or not. Adam’s intention was to hide his nakedness but it was insufficient.

We then see Cain and Abel typifying “what is used to clothe man’s nakedness” when they come with their offering – MAN’S FIRST SACRIFICES. Cain represents the firstborn, the heir, and the inheritance. In God’s mind it is a corruptible inheritance from the line of Adam. Cain is a tiller of the ground and Abel is a keeper of sheep. One represents a people who clothe themselves with their own labors and Abel represents a people that clothe themselves with sacrifices of skin. More specifically though is Cain represents Adam and the nature of the cursed ground and Abel represents Jesus and a Life-giving Branch of Fruit. Our every decision rests upon the finished work of either Cain or Abel, either Adam or Jesus – the natural man versus the spiritual man as 1 Corinthians 15:46 says, “first comes the natural then comes the spiritual”, “the earthy and then the heavenly”.

Abel’s first sacrifice provoked Cain and Cain typified a people that would slay their brother. The Jewish people fulfilled this by crucifying their own brother Jesus – and yet their blindness provided their own salvation; that salvation gave them a coat for their nakedness. Therefore the first thunder reveals our response when alienated to God, it is one of shame and nakedness when His thunderous voice walks in His garden. Then it reveals God’s response – salvation. Man’s tries to save himself, he tries to cover that nakedness with his own works from the GROUND. God’s salvation comes solely from life in the blood.

Animal blood never redeemed man. Animal blood never atoned one sin. Animal blood never restored fellowship with God and man. Animal blood was a type, a representation, and a sign that pointed to a Blood that would one day come. Each drop of animal blood that spilled on the cursed ground was a Prophecy! If that Blood did not come then the animal blood would have been just as impotent, just as powerless, and just as cursed as the ground. But every time an animal was sacrificed, every time an animal was skinned to clothe man, it was a prophecy that SPOKE GOD’S THUNDEROUS VOICE and it said “there will be a Blood that shall bring restoration to man, to clothe Him, to feed him – that Blood is My Own. It is God’s blood spilled on the ground, God’s skin we are now wearing and God’s offering that we eat daily that brought us restoration of complete habitual fellowship without a shred of nakedness left. WALK IN THIS TRUTH!

Where the 1st thunder of the Old Testament is our starting point of redemption, the 1st thunder of Revelation is where we want to end up, at the throne of God and in awesome worship of His Holiness – totally restored. The Alpha and the Omega of the plan of God. Revelation 4:5

THUNDER OF JUDGMENT –             THUNDER 2

Exod 9:23 – 2nd Thunder

And Moses stretched forth his rod toward heaven: and the LORD sent thunder and hail, and the fire ran along upon the ground; and the LORD rained hail upon the land of Egypt.

Purpose – Revelation of God’s judgment on sin and rebellion

 

The Egyptians were a race of people who were “tillers of the land” and the Israelites were a despised people because they were “keepers of the sheep”. The world system always despises “keepers of sheep” and approves only the “tillers of the ground”. God sent judgment of thunder, hail and fire and we see it “ran along the ground”, a phrase that God uses similar to “walking in the garden”. God is making a point here. The judgment fell ONLY on the “tillers of the land”, the Egyptians, and it destroyed all their vegetation! God is saying something concerning vegetation that we must grab a hold of.

There is only one acceptable vegetation – Jesus the tree of Life. He is the root of Jesse and Zechariah along with Isaiah and Jeremiah give Him the Name – BRANCH. But didn’t we read that anything that comes out of the earth is cursed? Isaiah 53:8 gives us our answer – He was cut off from the land of the living. As we said in chapter 10, God gives a great picture of this when we see two witnesses, two spies Joshua and Caleb. They go into the land and look for the PROMISE. They find the branch (full of fruit) and the scripture says that they cut off the branch; and they hung the branch with its fruit (not barren) on a pole between two men. This was a prophetic picture of Jesus the Branch who would be cut off from His land and hung on a cross between two men. This is a picture that popped out at me in a real way even though I had read this passage a hundred times yet never saw that it typified Jesus. The branch that was full of fruit, was cut off, hung between two men, on a pole, carried out of the land and shown to the people of God – WHO REJECTED HIM. Numbers 13:23

To add to the concept of Jesus being the Branch we see something that helps us later in interpreting Revelation. In Isaiah 11:1 it says “A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.” (NIV) This had a DUAL fulfillment. One in the physical first and then one in the spiritual. Jesus fulfills the physical when He grew up in Nazareth and was called a Nazarene. The name of this city comes from the Hebrew word used for branch. Why did God select Nazareth for Jesus to grow up? God is making a point. God selects a city obscure with little popularity and that city is named after the Name of the Branch that will grow up in it. Jesus spiritually fulfilled it after He died, rose again and ascended to the Father and provided us the redemption that joins us to Him from the state of alienation. Once joined to Jesus, He becomes the Branch we are grafted into and we bear fruit only from the Branch. There is no bearing fruit, no redemption apart from the Branch. The physical fulfillment (Nazareth) is not the end but it is the pointer to the real fulfillmentSpiritual reconciliation. So we have the prophecy from heaven, then the physical fulfillment - then the spiritual fulfillment.

Joshua and Caleb cut off the Branch and said, “Here is what we got from the land”; it PROVES that the promise is true. God’s people rejected Him but it was necessary for the Branch to be cutoff from the cursed land – TO PROVIDE REDEMPTION FOR ALIENATED MAN. God saved animals in Noah’s ark but ALL vegetation was destroyed. Again, this is God’s judgment on both wicked man and vegetation. Every single sacrifice pointed to Him Who would be sacrificed. Esau the firstborn exchanges his inheritance for a bowl of vegetable stew and Jacob received the promise because of the sacrifice of two goats. God’s details in scriptures go unnoticed to many of God’s people but God shows His love for us through all of it.

The second thunder deals with judgment on vegetation. Whenever we WORK and offer to God our labors, it is judged as unacceptable, it is vegetation. When we REST in the finished sacrifice of Jesus, it is as the animal skin. Jesus said that there would be those that would say in that day, “Did we not cast out devils, did we not prophesy, and did we not DO wonderful WORKS – all in Your Name? Jesus rejected their works because they were wood, hay and stubble – they were vegetation. On that day we all will have an offering to give to Jesus. Our offering will be either from the ground or from the Blood sacrifice. Malachi 3:3 says, “that they might offer unto the LORD an offering in righteousness”.

1 Cor 3:13

Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

The second thunder will destroy the vegetation with hail and fire. There are two “SORTS” of man’s work. Your work is as one who is a “tiller of the land” or it is as one that is a “keeper of sheep”. This is the thunder heard in Egypt and this is the thunder heard in Revelation 8:5 which will destroy a third of the Earth’s vegetation. JUDGMENT ON VEGETATION IS COMING!

Isa 42:14-15

"For a long time I have kept silent, I have been quiet and held myself back. But now, like a woman in childbirth, I cry out, I gasp and pant. I will lay waste the mountains and hills and dry up all their vegetation; I will turn rivers into islands and dry up the pools. (NIV)

Deut 29:23-25

23     The whole land will be a burning waste of salt and sulfur-- nothing planted, nothing sprouting, no vegetation growing on it. It will be like the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, Admah and Zeboiim, which the LORD overthrew in fierce anger.

24     All the nations will ask: "Why has the LORD done this to this land? Why this fierce, burning anger?"

25     And the answer will be: "It is because this people abandoned the covenant of the LORD, the God of their fathers, the covenant he made with them when he brought them out of Egypt.(NIV)

      What the Hail did not destroy, the locusts did destroy.

Exod 10:14-15

14     And the locusts went up over all the land of Egypt, and rested in all the coasts of Egypt: very grievous were they; before them there were no such locusts as they, neither after them shall be such.

For they covered the face of the whole earth, so that the land was darkened; and they did eat every herb of the land, and all the fruit of the trees which the hail had left: and there remained not any green thing in the trees, or in the herbs of the field, through all the land of Egypt.

Now we will see the release of a last day’s locust. They are a judgment that will not destroy the Earth’s vegetation as in Egypt. God mentions to us what they “were not commanded to do” because He is making a point to us. The normal things for a judgment of locusts to do is destroy the Earth’s vegetation but these locusts are commanded NOT to harm this vegetation because it was a judgment on man who has refused the sacrifice of skin. These locust were sent to attack man who was had “no seal”. “No seal” represents people that cover themselves with vegetation and it is that vegetation that now gets judged, that is the vegetation they are wearing instead of the Earth’s vegetation. Each of us is wearing a seal, a clothing, and a covering. We can call our vegetable garments the seal of God but there will come a day when the UNCOVERING WILL COME. We will be exposed to what we are truly wearing. Are our Christian activities a work of vegetation or does each activity that we do rest upon the finish work of Jesus.

Rev 9:4

And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

God’s issue with us is one of responding to the Gospel of reconciliation with the response of covering ourselves with our own works and methods of salvation instead of with Christ Jesus. Judgment falls on those that reject Jesus’ clothing for our nakedness. Judgment is part of the message of reconciliation.

Rev 6:1

And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.

The 2nd thunder of Revelation is where judgment starts. It says, “come and see” and what you see is seals opening in judgment on the world system. Revelation 6:1 – The O.T. and the N.T. thunders are in agreement.

THUNDER OF CONSECRATION –           THUNDER 3

Exod 19:16 – 3rd Thunder

And it came to pass on the third day in the morning, that there were thunders and lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud; so that all the people that was in the camp trembled.

Purpose – preparation for God’s people but they responded in fear.

 

Consecration is God’s process to cover man’s nakedness. In Exodus we see the third thunder, three being the number of “complete testimony”. Before the third thunder strikes we see Moses coming down from the mountain to consecrate the people and wash their garments. Moses says, “Be ready for the third day and do not go near a woman. On the third day came the thunder. This is an awesome event that is prophetic and yet quite incomplete. There is thunder and lightning, a thick cloud and the sound or voice of a trumpet. Moses brings the people of God out of the camp to meet God; this is so exciting. They all stand at the foot of the mountain and God descends upon the mountain in fire. The smoke ascends and the mountain quakes. And all of this ends with Moses speaking forth to God.

There is no judgment in this thunder but there again is the theme of redemption. It is a day like the “Day of Atonement” seen in the Feast of Tabernacles. In the Feast of Tabernacles we start off on the first day with the “Blowing of Trumpets”. The Feast lasts from the 1st day to the 22nd day of the 7th month. The 10th day is the Day of Atonement; it is a day where the bride is making herself ready. As with tabernacle truths that we discussed in a previous chapter, the feast days can be reflective of different areas of our lives. In one area you may be going through Atonement and another area is just now getting to Passover. In applying truth simply allow the Holy Spirit to speak to you that which He wants dealt with.

Num 29:7

And ye shall have on the tenth day of this seventh month an holy convocation; and ye shall afflict your souls: ye shall not do any work therein:

Before the third thunder there will be an afflicting of our souls. Moses put it another way in his commands to the people – “do not go near a woman”. That was an afflicting of souls for the men. In Revelation we see a people that obeyed this command – the 144,000. In addition, the Day of Atonement speaks clearly for us to cease from our own works. Get the vegetation out of your life.

This event is the thunderous voice that signals RECONCILIATION BACK TO GOD. God has a plan to redeem us from the curse of the law and the curse of the ground. Except for this plan we would all return to the dust that we were made from for all eternity - eternal separation and alienation from God. But now it is time to MEET GOD. The third day is about meeting God.

The third thunder is a voice that comes from heaven AFTER the people FIRST consecrated themselves and WASHED their garments. Many times we want to believe in consecration, preach on consecration, but when it comes time to LIVE IN CONSECRATION we choose a life of soil. When we wake up in the morning we begin our day consecrated to God’s purposes and when we go to bed at night we end with the soil of the Earth all over us. IT COVERS US. Consecration is about changing your clothing. We seem to think it is a submitting ourselves to law and instead it is the opposite. The law is again covering us with the vegetation of the ground. Grace on the other hand will exchange your nakedness, your soiled flesh and give you HIS FLESH. HIS FLESH is what consecration is all about. It is faith in wearing His Flesh, RESTING in HIS CLEANLINESS, EATING of HIS meat, which is His will.

If we will rest in the finish work of Jesus and place our every hope, desire and faith in Him, we shall be a spotless bride. When the third trumpet blows it signals that the bride has consecrated herself. The heavens will open up as a result and God will DESCEND UPON THE MOUNTAIN.

Exod 19:16-18

On the morning of the third day there was thunder (the 3rd one)and lightning, with a thick cloud over the mountain, and a very loud trumpet blast. Everyone in the camp trembled.

Then Moses led the people out of the camp to meet with God, and they stood at the foot of the mountain.

Now Mount Sinai {was} all in smoke because the LORD descended upon it in fire; and its smoke ascended like the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mountain quaked violently.

The 3rd thunder of Revelation (Revelation 8:5) continues judgment as the angel with the censer offers up the incense of our prayers and then fills the censer with fire to burn the vegetation of the Earth. The fire of the censer descended to the Earth. It is a judgment on that which alienates us from God. Though we may see a physical 1/3 of the Earth’s vegetation destroyed, it has a spiritual significance that is more important. The censer of fire caused thunders and an earthquake and sounded the first trumpet blast. This is a picture that looks like a repeat of Exodus 19:16-19.

THUNDER OF THE COMING –          THUNDER 4

Exod 19:19,20 – 4th Thunder

And when the voice of the trumpet sounded long, and waxed louder and louder, Moses spake, and God answered him by a voice (qowl-THUNDER)

Vs 20 And the LORD came down upon mount Sinai, on the top of the mount: and the LORD called Moses up to the top of the mount; and Moses went up.

Purpose – Moses is a type of the church that will meet God on the mountain – FACE TO FACE.

Moses speaks to God and God answers with the 4th thunder then God comes down to Earth on the top of the mountain. God actually comes down from heaven in this prophetic event of Jesus Who will come down from heaven and set foot on the mountain as the Book of Zechariah describes. When God came down on the mountain He CALLED MOSES UP TO BE WITH HIM. Moses is a type of the Church of the last days. The alienation that occurred in the garden is for the first time restored with a man. Moses spoke with God face to face. Moses represents a people that will know God face to face. There is no longer ANYTHING that separates.

In the Old Testament it was exclusive all the way down to just one man – Moses; but through Jesus our Lord it is to whosoever will. We are all included. You are included in this magnificence that Moses experienced. Our Gospel is simply about the Love of God demonstrated in the sacrifice of God’s Own Son so that we may be restored to fellowship and no longer alienated from God’s presence. No more hiding, no more trying to sew vegetation on us through good deeds. We wear Jesus Christ as our garments and God the Father says – IT IS ENOUGH! God hides our sin where it cannot be seen. Sin no longer has power to separate in our lives – unless you empower it. When you became born again, your old man died, he was buried and he is not to be resurrected. The new man is NOW clothed in Jesus, the new man has no shame of nakedness.

Sin is like a tree cut off at its root. As we taught earlier, in chapter 18, sin in your life has been cutoff at the root the moment you were saved. The tree sits there on the ground with no power to give life to those leaves. Your old man that was alienated has no power to give life to those sins. You are cutoff from the cursed ground. UNLESS YOU EMPOWER IT! Those leaves may still look green but they will die if you will be patient and continue in the faith. Those leaves are but dead things. They have no power to continue because they are the ones alienated now, not you from God. Empowering sin in your life will keep you from going to the top to meet God face to face. A revelation of sin being a dead thing and also of the purity that God desires from you – will cause you to go to the top of the mountain where God is. The Christian life is a growing process that learns to make Jesus Lord in every area of living and make sin subdued in the same area of living. Jesus is not reigning as Lord, anywhere that sin is reigning and empowered. We are invited to the top but we can only get there in Jesus Christ, there is no other way. Declare that sin is dead and Jesus is Lord over your entire life then proceed up the mountain clothed in the garments of a bride, the garments of our Lord.

God wants you to go to the top. He does not want you to send your pastor or your prophet. He wants you to have the face-to-face conversations with Him. He wants you to be the one that hears His thunderous voice that causes you to fear God and yet approach Him in holiness. You are God’s Moses that is destined for time on the top of the mountain. You are the one called even if no one you know has gone; it doesn’t matter he is wooing you – His bride.

      The 4th thunder of Revelation is an awesome one!

Rev 11:18-12:2

The nations were angry; and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your saints and those who reverence your name, both small and great-- and for destroying those who destroy the earth. "Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a great hailstorm. A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. (NIV)

What an event! But what does it mean? Though we see dimly in the completeness of some of these passages, this one points to some things we are teaching. You are God’s temple in the spirit, in the heavens and Jesus is God’s Ark of the Covenant. We see a time that when the temple is open – JESUS IS SEEN. It is a time when the church has grown up, matured, finished her course just like the Apostle Paul did. I see the woman seen afterwards as simply another picture of the temple we just saw previously. She is not simply a church that gets blessed, and receives glory but she is a church that gives birth. Some see her as the nation of Israel; they are simply confused about what the Holy Spirit is saying. God’s word is about you – Jew and Greek in Christ Jesus comprising Jesus’ body.

The 4th thunder of the Old Testament causes Moses (you) to hear the answer of God’s thunderous voice, Moses (you) meets God face-to-face then Moses (you) goes down to the people. When Moses (you) reached the people he had the priests sanctify themselves and brought them near. Then God SPOKE and REVEALED the law of God which would then later become written on stones and hid in the Ark of the Covenant (Jesus). Then Moses was changed by God’s glory. You are changed by God’s glory, but that Glory only CAME when you answered His thunderous voice and met Him at the top. The point is this:

2 Cor 3:18

But we all, with unveiled face beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as from the Lord, the Spirit. (NAS)

This is so important to this passage in Revelation chapter 12 and I am just now starting to see it more clearly. God will have a mature people that when all of heaven looks inside of them, they will see Jesus. The reason the church finally gets there is because she heard the thunder and decided to go to the top to meet God and therefore was transformed as 2 Cor 3:18 confirms. In Rev. chapter 12 God gives another picture of this mature church – she is a woman, she is pregnant and she is ready to give birth. If we are the “woman” then that means maturity gets you pregnant! So what does the woman give birth to?

Rev 12:5

She gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations with an iron scepter. And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne. (NIV)

A male child! Who is the male child or as the King James Version puts it “man child”? I know that many teach that the man-child is the mature sons of God. Though that is close, I never perceived that that is all the Holy Spirit was saying. This verse always sounded like Jesus to me at first glance, so I keep that in mind. Scripturally we see the term “rule the nation with a rod of iron” found in three places in Revelation. It is seen here in chapter 12; it is described as pertaining to “overcomingChristians in Revelation chapter 2; and pertained to Jesus in Revelation chapter 19. What a puzzle, but remember that God communicates in pictures that are to be interpreted by the people who are walking with God on the mountain instead of by the brainy scholars. Listen to what the Holy Spirit is teaching you about who is who. Proper interpretation will be the following: The man-child is only the group pertaining to overcoming Saints. This is in agreement with Revelation chapter 2. Or the man-child is Jesus as described in Revelation chapter 19. Finally the man-child can be both Jesus and the overcoming Christian; if this is the case then we must balance our focus. Psalm 2 confirms that the Christian overcomer is granted the promise that was originally given to the Son of God only. Psalm 2 was a promise to Jesus that we are now granted the privilege to receive as our own. So which interpretation should we use for the man-child?

The answer of whether it is only referring to Saints, to Jesus, or simply both is given only through what the Holy Spirit is saying through scripture and can never be know by “figuring it out”. Therefore let us observe some truth that we already know. Remember the scripture of how Paul took the act of ministering and used a picture, a metaphor to illustrate the principle. He used several pictures meaning the same thing. We are an eater of meat, a drinker of milk, a field receiving planting and water, or a temple being built. These are different pictures and yet only one principle being taught. Giving more than one picture brought clarification to what Paul was teaching and also added detail to the teaching.

The temple of God is OPENED in Revelation chapter 11 and Jesus is seen as the Ark in heaven. In chapter 12 immediately following the opened ark we see a second opening; an opening of the womb. The woman labors in pain and now OPENS her womb so that the “man child” can be seen in the Earth. In this entire book we have taught you to minister the Word of God – Jesus to others. We minister Jesus as gold, silver, and precious stones (another picture that Paul used). We minister to others Jesus Who is the Tree of Life. We minister Jesus without the mixture of bitter water, tares, and false doctrine. We minister Jesus the Word of God in the SOIL of others without soulish pride. And all of this type of ministry allows Jesus to come forth from out of our lives through the process of maturity. This ministry is THE WOMAN of Revelation 12, a people who sanctify themselves to live on the mountain with God, Jesus grows up in them, they are transformed into His image and they IMPART JESUS TO OTHERS.

Why was this Man-child caught up to the throne? Because if we read the entire passage we seen that the adversary wants to destroy the man-child, the woman and the OTHER offspring (“the remnant of the woman”). God catches the man-child to heaven and is out of reach. In other words, snatching him up to heaven divinely protects the man-child. The woman who gave birth is divinely protected from the enemy as well but remains on the Earth and it is the earth that saves the woman from the flood of the dragon. This shows that God puts His stamp of approval on Her and she should never be considered immature as some teach – she is a life-giver, she is a mature woman, and she gives birth to that which is caught up like Enoch, Elijah, and Jesus were all caught up. The remnant is the one that the enemy seeks when he can’t get to the woman and the man-child. The remnant is described as they “which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.” Therefore God puts His stamp of approval on all three pictures presented in this chapter. God’s approval of ALL THREE must be established or we will hinder the Holy Spirit from revealing truth. We must make natural observations and examine what we know then the Holy Spirit gives light beyond what we naturally know. Fortunately the Holy Spirit helps us with the tasks of study and observations as well.

Here is another picture that I see fitting with this passage in Revelation. Jesus gives the parable of the sower of the Word of God. Jesus is the Word of God being sown. The adversary attacks whenever Jesus (the Word) is sown. See this picture with me because it illustrates the function of the enemy to attack and should be compared to the attacks seen in Revelation chapter 12.

Mark 4:14

The sower soweth the word.

Or another way of putting it, the woman is pregnant.

And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

This is the same picture seen in Revelation where the dragon seeks to devour the child as soon as He is born. In the following verses we see more attacks from the devil to prevent the Word of God from growing up and then this parable ends with a people that have allowed the Word of God (Jesus) to grow to PRODUCTIVITY. What God is prophesying in Revelation and many other scriptures is; there shall be a people that will have had seed sown in them and they will produce 30, 60 and 100 fold and they will give birth to another people that are 30, 60 and 100 fold by sowing that same seed – that seed is Jesus, and the fruit that is produced is Jesus as well. It is not just about you becoming mature, it is about you imparting the life that makes others mature. You become the “mother” giving birth, you become the “father” that raises sons that become fathers and you become the “hard-working farmer” that labors over the soil that God is blessing. The MAN-CHILD is CAUGHT UP to the throne to signify that the Word of God was birthed in others and the adversary cannot get to Him. Do you see it; God is declaring the Word that you will deposit to others as OFF-LIMITS TO THE DEVIL as well as you are off limits to the devil. So whom does this word get deposited to?

Rev 12:17

Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to make war against the rest of her offspring-- those who obey God's commandments and hold to the testimony of Jesus. (NIV)

The dragon could not touch the Male child (WORD), or the woman - so the devil seeks to “make war” with the REST (literally – others remaining, remnant) of her offspring. How do we know that Jesus the Word of God was imparted to this offspring? Because whenever you truly minister Jesus, you will see a people that obey God’s commandments and hold to the testimony of Jesus. That is how you know that the Word fell on good soil. This plan of God is about you becoming like Jesus to the point you cause others to become like Jesus. The true meaning of “making disciples”! The parable of the sower ends with these words:

Mark 4:21-23

21     And he said unto them, Is a candle brought to be put under a bushel, or under a bed? and not to be set on a candlestick?

22     For there is nothing hid, which shall not be manifested; neither was any thing kept secret, but that it should come abroad.

23     If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.

The opening of the Temple to reveal the Ark and the woman giving birth to reveal Jesus the male child is simply another way of prophesying that the bushel shall be removed from that candle of Jesus in you and then placed on a candlestick to light others. Whatever you have in your heart, whoever you have been serving will be manifested - for nothing is hid. We must have ears to hear and eyes to see. Who is the man-child? Is it Jesus? Is it the Overcomers? Is it both? The Holy Spirit will reveal this if you have eyes to see. What do I see? I see the man-child primarily as a people that are so In Christ that you cannot tell them – from Him. Jesus is the focus as the Word of God planted and grown up, but the church is there too, just as our example in Psalms that we gave earlier. The man-child is a promise of the Word of God that is sown by the woman. That promise is being realized and shared by overcoming Saints that hear and see what God is saying and produced 30-60-100 fold lives. Therefore they are as a male child caught up to heaven as Enoch, Elijah, and Jesus. Caught up as one who walked in intimacy, one who walked in the power of ministry, and One Who walked in total obedience to His Father. Jesus became a culmination of all God’s plans, a culmination of Who God is, and the Love demonstrated to conform others to that same Image.

Revelation is not the first book that used metaphors, parables, and symbols; these types and shadows are seen from cover to cover. Paul used them, Peter used them, and most all writers of scriptures taught with pictures. The 4th thunder demonstrates intimacy through Moses heeding the thunder and then meeting God face to face. It reveals to the world the glory of that encounter with God. Being “caught up” to heaven is the experience of being summoned to the top of the mountain where God is, and having a face-to-face relationship Him. It is a place that is totally out of reach from the enemy, it is a place Enoch had been. It is a whirlwind that captured Elijah and admonished Job about the greatness and awesomeness of God. It is a whirlwind that comes again according to Isaiah in the last day. The “catching up” in Revelation has spiritual significance – NOW. The Word of God is received on good and obedient soil that is “caught up” to the intimacy of face to face relationship where we know when we are acting on our authority and when we are walking and speaking only on His authority. A relationship that lives on the mountain and leaves that mountain in productivity – giving life to others!

THUNDER OF GOD’S GLORY –               THUNDER 5

Exod 20:18 – 5th Thunder

And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off.

Purpose – God’s people respond to His glory by distancing themselves and putting Moses (a clergy) between them and God.

The 4th thunder was glorious, out of it came the law that became hid in Christ. But tragedy strikes because the people refused God’s plan of removing the alienation and restoring relationship with God and man. BECAUSE OF NAKEDNESS they stand afar off. They see God’s glory and you would think that they would get as close as allowed; instead they stood afar off.

Exod 20:19-21

19     And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die.

20     And Moses said unto the people, Fear not: for God is come to prove you, and that his fear may be before your faces, that ye sin not.

21     And the people stood afar off, and Moses drew near unto the thick darkness where God was.

The people of God fulfill this prophetic event everyday. “Let the Pastor speak to us, let the Pastor go to the mountain, but I will stay back”. “I do not understand the scriptures so I must buy the newest book at the Christian bookstore.” Moses on the other hand drew near to God. The thunderous voice of God is calling us right now into the thick darkness where He is. Notice the scripture says that God is in the thick darkness. Selah. Other Christians will not go there. Other Christians have their pastors and prophets go there and when most of them have their pastors and prophets go there – the result is no one goes. We are called to be this “Moses people” and we are called down from that same mountain to woo others into coming. We are ministers of reconciliation that will reconcile God’s people back to Himself at the top of the mountain. God’s desire is not just the initial salvation experience, God’s entire design was for man to walk with Him in the Earth and yet not a part of the cursed ground. The world system grows out of the ground that is cursed and is destined for judgment, we are traveling on that ground but we are not rooted in it; we do not Christianize world governments – they are cursed.

When you have a face-to-face relationship with the Master and you go to the mountain to hear His thunderous voice for yourself – it brings glory to your face. As with Moses whose face shines with Glory that he put a veil on it, God says get that face of glory but now it is time to take the veil off. We must impart life to others and bring them to the top of the mountain “with God” in this hour. Who is it that will finally go? It is the ones that will hear this thunder being proclaimed and will draw near to God in response. One may be the Bible scholar of the millennium and never reach God’s face. One may have seen thousands healed, raised from the dead and demons cast out - and be the one who stood aloof from God’s holy presence. One may be the most admired and gifted minister and yet failed to go to the top with God and failed to go back and bring others to the top to meet God. God is looking for ANY WHO WILL to go to the top, then leave and bring back others to meet God. Are you that one? Also, if the thunder of God’s glory causes the people of God to stand aloof, what will happen when the glorious church comes on the scene? If you do not go back down – they will all stand aloof.

The 5th thunder of Revelation is God’s GREAT DIVIDING! The sequence of events following this thunderous voice speaks a truth that is seen throughout scripture. It is a truth of just two people separated into categories, the wheat and the tares. Those Christians riding the fence will fall on one side or the other.

Rev 14:2-19

2      And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

4      These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

5      And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

The sound of thunder gives way to the sound of harps and the voices of harpers. They are singing the Psalms of God and maybe Psalm 33, which is quite an appropriate song for the occasion. The harpers are the 144,000 and they are singing a new song that cannot be learned unless you are a member. God is not in the business of forming exclusive clubs like some Bible teachers malign Him as doing. God always says whosoever wills! The 144,000 are NEVER a number LIMITED to a physical number. God speaks with spiritual numbers and unless we see that truth, Revelation will always be a mystery to us no matter how much we study it. Some will respond by saying, “are you not over-spiritualizing the scriptures and events in Revelation?” These scriptures are very spiritual and they are hidden FOR those that have eyes to see and ears to hear. These scriptures do have fulfillment in both spirit and physical. There will physically be a people that the 144,000 represent. I also perceive that there will be physical calamities as are depicted in Revelation but each one has a spiritual truth attached to it. Each physical event communicates God’s plan to man.

The 144,000 are ones that “were not defiled with a woman”. This is very much like the command of Moses read earlier, “do not go near a woman”. Moses spoke this as a word of sanctification to the people of God. Is the Holy Spirit saying this is simply a command to sanctify us thoroughly or is the Holy Spirit saying that this is limited to men who choose to never have sexual relations with a woman? You must hear what the Holy Spirit is teaching to know the answer.

Verse 5 blatantly reveals something very important that many Bible teachers teach against. There are many Bible teachers that believe that it is heresy to teach that the people of God can walk in such a way where their maturity is without sin. In verse 5 we see a people that walked in this life with no guile, no lies, and no falsehoods. They are a people that are without blemish, without spot – a perfect people. Though God’s standard of measure does not always mean “UTTERLY”, it does have a strong comparison sense that they shall walk in righteousness where no one can find blame. Other church members, or the world system, or the devil cannot find blame in them. God himself calls them BLAMELESS. Not on their own merits but we are talking of a fruitful walk that comes from abiding in Jesus to such a capacity that the fruit of sin is absent and the fruit of righteousness is the ONLY fruit available from their tree. These Bible teachers claim scripture proficiency and yet in reality they miss some of the simplest teachings found in scripture. They stand aloof from God’s truth. They lack the intimacy that the Holy Spirit brings to truth.

7      Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

8      And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

Now comes the separation. The hour of judgment has come. Immediately revealed is Babylon, a city that represents a religious people that does not know God. The 5th thunder of the Old Testament separates the people by giving a revelation of God’s glory that results in a people that “stood aloof” from God. It is a people that choose to stay aloof. These “standing aloof” people become “BABYLON”! Now in Revelations’ 5th thunder they are judged because not only did they stand aloof but they also intermingled with the nations of the world. They are the first to get utter judgment before the world system.

9      And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up forever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

In Rev. 7:3 we see the 144,000 having the SEAL OF GOD in their foreheads. Is this a physical mark? Most would agree it is not a physical mark but it is a spiritual mark. If we follow this same pattern in relationship to the “mark of the beast” then we should conclude that the Holy Spirit is talking about a spiritual mark. Does that mean there will be no physical marks handed out? That would be trying to guess something that the Holy Spirit is not teaching. The Holy Spirit is teaching us to FOCUS on the spiritual mark. Though the physical mark could become a physical reality, our focus is in the spiritual fulfillments. You can be out looking for the physical mark and have avoided it and the whole time you have received the spiritual mark of the beast.

12     Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

13     And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

14     And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

15     And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

16     And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

Israel’s last feast is the feast of tabernacles, which is a feast of reaping and then a gathering together what has been reaped. There is two gathering: of the righteous fruit and the wheat - and of the wicked tares. This reaping is a great divide just as the Kidron (meaning dusk) valley in Jerusalem was a divide that represented light separating from darkness. In this chapter the sickle is swung twice. The second swing fills the winepress or wine vat with the fruit from the vine of the Earth – BLOOD. A winepress squashes, crushes those grapes with feet and this judgment on our enemies uses the feet of God to crush our enemies. The place this event happens is outside the city meaning Jerusalem. I see the wine vat as Kidron valley, remembering that it is the spiritual application that we are hearing from God concerning these events.

THUNDER OF ENEMY’S DEFEAT –         THUNDER 6

1 Sam 7:10 – 6th Thunder

And as Samuel was offering up the burnt offering, the Philistines drew near to battle against Israel: but the LORD thundered with a great thunder on that day upon the Philistines, and discomfited them; and they were smitten before Israel.

Purpose – The people respond to the enemy’s attack by calling on Samuel (clergy). God defeats the enemies of God’s people.

Six is the number for man and this thunder is to deal with men who are God’s enemies. God’s people call upon Samuel to help them. Samuel was their mediator; Samuel was their savior, just as Moses had been. The Philistines who represent the world system and the enemies of God’s people - were about to attack. This is a prophetic event that will be fulfilled in the last day. Samuel’s response was to sacrifice a Lamb to the Lord. It is the Lamb of God that destroyed the enemies and He will do so in totality at His coming down on the mountain. God’s response to the enemy was thunder and it was a thunder FOR HIS PEOPLE.

The thunder threw the enemy into confusion and the people of Israel defeated them. The Philistines became spoils for the people of God. From that day forth the Philistines were defeated in the land of Israel all the days of Samuel.

John 12:29-33

The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him. Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes. Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out. And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. This he said, signifying what death he should die.

Jesus said now, in relationship to the Lamb being slain - that the enemy would be defeated and cast down. This is a fulfillment of the 6th thunder and yet a more final 6th thunder will be revealed shortly. In other words, the prince of the world was already cast down according to Jesus and yet there is an appropriation of this event that has yet to be fully realized. It is now being realized by the people of God that are walking towards the mountain.

The 6th thunder of Revelation dramatically adds to this judgment for the last day.

Rev 16:18-21

18     And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.

19     And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

21     And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

Final judgment is now signaled throughout the world and yet it will take one more thunder to remove the last enemy. Man’s response to this last judgment on Earth is blaspheming God. It is a total rejection of the Gospel, the ministry of reconciliation and the plan of redemption. Man chooses to continue beliefs in salvation through works – a covering of vegetation. Man continues to believe in godless scientific theories, in the pride of politics, in the piety of Hollywood, success from their talents, in its riches that they have stored, and in every effort of self-preservation. The bottom line is that they DO NOT REPENT.

Rev 18:8

Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

The end result of the 6th thunder is the death of the apostate church. The apostate church is an enemy that has corrupted the church because of her proximity, her closeness. Her doctrine has consistently lied to the saints and corrupted the church. Her flirtation with the world system has enticed believers all over the world to forsake Jesus for other things. The Babylon church now receives her reward – utter judgment. The biggest enemy of the church is defeated. No more opinions of man, no more perversions of the nature of God, and no more oppressing the people of God by keeping them off of the mountain.

THUNDER OF RESTORATION –              THUNDER 7

1 Sam 12:14 – 7th Thunder

If ye will fear the LORD, and serve him, and obey his voice, and not rebel against the commandment of the LORD, then shall both ye and also the king that reigneth over you continue following the LORD your God: But if ye will not obey the voice of the LORD, but rebel against the commandment of the LORD, then shall the hand of the LORD be against you, as it was against your fathers. Is it not wheat harvest to day? I will call unto the LORD, and he shall send thunder and rain; that ye may perceive and see that your wickedness is great, which ye have done in the sight of the LORD, in asking you a king. So Samuel called unto the LORD; and the LORD sent thunder and rain that day: and all the people greatly feared the LORD and Samuel.

Purpose – The people placed Moses (prophet), Samuel (priest) and a king (Saul) to rule over them. God answers them with thunder and a voice that calls for ultimate reconciliation and restoration of God’s people back to Himself – FACE TO FACE.

The people of God had made a prophet to mediate between them and God and then a priest to stand in the gap and now a king. The early church did not have a dividing line of clergy and laity. This latter church of ours however has alienated her just as the Israelites had done. Starting with the Catholic Church into present day prophetic movements, we still see this same alienation. This alienation did not surprise God; He prophesied it in the seven thunders. This alienation did not start with God’s people in the church of the Middle Ages, it was an alienation seen in God’s people in the days of Moses, Samuel and Saul.

The 7th thunder is the final thunder, the perfect thunder. It must accomplish completely what God had set out to do since the 1st thunder. It started in alienation and it must end in total reconciliation. It must end in a unity, a gathering together of all God’s people with God Himself! It cannot end with the people at the base of the mountain, it cannot end with God’s people standing afar off and it cannot end with God’s people setting up prophets to hear and meet God for them.

We got men going to heaven for us, we say, “we need their prophecies”, and “we need their newest revelations”. Now listen up for God’s thunderous voice – NO MORE!!! God will no longer allow you to have a pastor / Moses or the prophetic seer of your choice. So what does God do about it? He sends thunder to deal with the final thing that stands before Him and man – OTHER MEN. There is a perfect gift of ministry through men of God, but it is the people’s RESPONSE to ministry gifts that God is after not the ministers themselves. I am a minister therefore do not misunderstand and think I am talking about the destruction of ministry. I am talking about the destruction of the vegetation that we are wearing. It is vegetation that places a minister between God and us. This last vegetation rests in the finish work and experiences of the minister instead of resting in our own face-to-face relationship. All ministers that hear the 7th thunderous voice of God will simply move out of the way and go up WITH THE PEOPLE.

I have spoken before about the false doctrine of shepherdship in this book. I have a hatred for this leaven more than other false doctrines that I encounter. I watched nice people get destroyed because of it and it almost destroyed me years ago, but that is not why I hate this sin so much. After seeing the 7th thunder I realized that it is a leaven that utterly alienates man from God by placing a “minister” in between you and Jesus. Unfortunately they are not quite the caliber of Moses, but even if they were, if we will listen to God’s thunderous voice, it says NO MORE.

No more shall I have a man between Me and My people. No more shall man rule My people and become a crutch for My people. The time for kings is over, the time for priests is over and the times for prophets are over for I have called my entire people to be My prophet, priests and king. I have called My people to reign with Me face-to-face in an intimacy that can be found only on My bosom. This is no place for those that are timid, no place for those that are weak, it a place for My Gideons who will fight to get to a place of rest with Me that cannot be counterfeited and cannot be mastered. Those who try to stand in-between shall be removed, they are opposed to the 7th thunder of My awesome voice saith the Lord.

So Samuel says that the 7th thunder will show us the great wickedness that we have done in the sight of God in asking for a king. When the thunder CAME the people SAW. They perceived how great that wickedness was, they saw their wickedness in asking for a human mediator and repented. Their wicked King Saul would be replaced by King David who represented the only King we would ever serve, the King from Heaven.

1 Sam 12:20-22 - … the Lord has been pleased to make you a people for Himself!

After the 7th thunder ends God reveals to us WHY. All of these thunders happen to finally bring us to a place where we habitually live in Him, for Him and WE BECOME HIS! It pleased Him to sound the thunders to make you a people for Him. God takes pleasure with a people reconciled to Him and no longer alienated in any way. God takes pleasure in having redeemed you from the curse of the law and of the ground – for Himself. You are for Him, not for anyone standing in-between. Your favorite minister cannot be your voice of God any longer it must be God Himself. Your pastor cannot be your king, your discerner or your sole adviser. God must be your Husband now. The gift of men can be partaken from, whether it is my gift to you or your pastors - but it ends there. I am bringing you to the base of the mountain but it is up to you to proceed upwards. I cannot go for you and you cannot go for me. I plead with you to go and do not look back, He is up there waiting for you and all He desires is that you come boldly to His throne of grace and obtain the mercy to Love Him Face-to-Face without shame and nakedness ever again. Never standing aloof, and never shrinking back.

The 7th thunder of Revelation sounds for what becomes the completion of the entire plan of redemption. It pleased God to make you a people unto Himself. Not a people that does what she wants, says what she wants, and chooses the brand of Christianity she wants. You have become a people He takes pleasure in - without spot, wrinkle or blemish.

Rev 19:6-9

6      And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Halleluia (Praise ye God): for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.

7      Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

8      And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

9      And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

My brethren, this is the final voice of God’s thunder. We must observe the finality, the completeness, and the perfection of what God is saying from His thunder. We are granted, we are called, and we are blessed to have this marriage invitation. If you have yet to choose Jesus then we must not wait any longer. We have made the initial commitment but not lets make our FINAL COMMITMENT! Jesus wants you reserved for Him and your past has no bearing on your future. Whatever defilement, whatever tragedy and whatever pains you have - becomes swallowed up if we will commit to the MOST EXCELLENT WAY of our Lord Jesus. If we are attached to anything unlike Jesus – commit to cast it off now. If we have accepted doctrine that Jesus does not agree with then purge it out of your bread. If we have failed to serve Jesus with our whole being and have not given Him total authority over our lives then let us repent and go up to the mountain of our Lord. Without shame, without nakedness we are clothed with Jesus Who is sufficient in the eyes of our God. Our lives are to be a sweet fragrance to His nose; our lives are to be good fruit eaten of by our brethren and our lives stand as judgment against those that refuse the covenant of God. Cry out to God for mercy and cry out to God for the grace to enter in by faith to the rest of God where we cease from works and are instead clothed in His glory. Do not let your race become disqualified by fainting, by standing aloof, or by accepting teachings that do not resemble Jesus and His glorious plan of total reconciliation. It is how you finish the race that counts. Do not finish like King Solomon that built the house and then served other gods; or like King Hezekiah that God selected for death after a race of honor, and when he got an extension with life through healing – turned away from God and finished in rebellion. We must proceed to the high calling of God, the more excellent way – the finishing line. It is how we finish that counts. We must finish as fathers, we must finish as mothers, we must finish as the Moses that brings the people to the top of the mountain – to be reconciled – spirit, soul, and then at the culmination – THE BODY.

There are so many more details with these scriptures that build on the glory of God’s plan. God has so many ways, so many pictures to show us these simple truths. It is never a new revelation but a revelation seen in the Old Testament, but with a clearer vision until that time of the great Marriage Supper Feast of the Lamb – the Gathering Together of God’s people unto Himself. God’s love story starts in Genesis 1:1 and ends in Revelation 22:21. This is the day that we receive glorified bodies that are flesh of His flesh and bone of His bone. And forevermore we shall be with the Lord and we shall be known by His Name. We shall be married to our Lord. We are the City of God, we are the dwelling of God –His temple, we are His bride and wife, and we are His people Whom He takes pleasure in. Come Lord Jesus, we receive Your free gift, drinking from Your spring. Come Lord Jesus, we have made ourselves ready for You. Come Lord Jesus, we have become Your habitation, a temple not made with the hands of man, but a temple made solely by the hands of Your Spirit; for God’s temple is not made by might (human), nor by power (man’s) , but by My Spirit saith the Lord. Amen.

Rev 21:2-17

I saw the holy City (God’s people), the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. THEY WILL BE HIS PEOPLE, AND GOD HIMSELF WILL BE WITH THEM AND BE THEIR GOD. He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making everything new!" He said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life. He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son. "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star." The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" And let him who hears say, "Come!" Whoever is thirsty, let him come; and whoever wishes, let him take the free gift of the water of life. (NIV)

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